Date:
Attendance
Board Members
Present: Scott
Webber, Don Austin, David Decker, Joe Nicoloff
Gary
Kluckman, Jason Hicks
Excused Absent:
Jim McCann
Quorum Present:
Yes
Others Present
Holishor Members Present
18
Glenn Dalton and Angie Basham from Holishor Office
Proceedings
Meeting called to order at
Pledge of Allegiance Recited
Minutes of
Action: Dave
Decker motions to approve, Gary Kluckman seconds
Motion carries
Bills & Salaries
Action: Dave Decker motions to
approve, Don Austin seconds
Motion Carries
Profit Loss Budget
Dave Decker: Appears we
are currently running at a deficit. Currently
reviewWill review in 30 to 60 days
Motion Carries
Transfers of Property
Action: Dave Decker motions to approve, Don Austin
seconds
Motion Carries
Manager’s Report
Given by Glenn Dalton
Security Report
Given by Glenn Dalton
Treasury Report
Given by David Decker
Action: Don Austin motions to
approve, Jason Hicks seconds
Discussion: Dave Decker explains final
CD at FNB is complete and being transferred to The Bank of Edwardsville.
Motion Carries
Correspondence
Report from Building Committee
Read by Joe Nicoloff
Discussion: Building
Committee cared for 12 items at the June 21 & July 5th meeting.
Action: none
Letter from Steven Manos (2082) – Aggressive Dogs
Read by Joe Nicoloff
Action:
Discuss in New Business
Discussion: Steve Manos (2082) spoke with county
after aggressive dog incident, correct course of action is to call HS Public
Safety, second call to the county if the dog owner is known. Would like to see
the Board increase fines for aggressive dogs.
Hold the owners responsible for their animals.
Scott Webber - the first incident that was reported to HS Public
Safety, the member was fined.
Conversation ensues.
Memo from
Read by Joe Nicoloff
Action: Discussed in
New Business
Old Business
Boat Lift Rule – no changes or recommendations at this time,
will vote on at the August 10th meeting.
319 Project Update -
Glenn Dalton, culvert to be put in July 14th, ½ acre pond is
filling with water which is going to be pumped out to continue the dig of the
Covenant Vote – Scott Webber reminds everyone to get their
vote in for the Covenant changes.
We
currently are at about 20% of goal.
Please remind your neighbors to vote.
Wakeboard boats – Rocky Lane (1047) reads letter from Rich
Hertell (679) asking the Board of Directors to revisit the boating rules and
add the following:
“All watercraft operated on Holiday Shores Lake
must adhere to and comply with the State of Illinois Boating Rules and
Regulations and also Holiday Shores Boating Rules and Regulations.”
Revise the Size Limit section to
include “legal” length as follows:
Pontoon
boats, (tubular bottom) operated on Holiday Lake shall not exceed twenty-eight
(28) feet in “legal” length. All other watercraft shall not exceed twenty-two
feet in “legal” length. (All watercraft registered with the Holishore
Association prior to 1/1/89 shall be considered exempt from this rule.)
Add a new section called Capacity
Restrictions and note the following:
No
watercraft should be loaded with passengers or cargo ( such as water ballast,
concrete blocks, and other similar devices) beyond its safe carrying capacity
as per the manufacturer’s Capacity Plate.
Add a new section called
Excessive Wakes and note the following:
No
artificial weighting of any kind to increase the size of a watercraft’s normal
wake will be allowed in any boat used on Holiday Shores Lake. This includes but
not limited to water sacks, coolers of water, cement blocks or other similar
devises. Boats with wedges or boats with water ballast tanks designed to
increase wakes are not be allowed.
Complete letter available on
request.
Scott Webber – Only
5 people from each side showed up. Since
this issue started, Board members have been spending a considerable amount of
time on the lake. Specific to the
fishing cove, didn’t count of number of boats, but very busy cove. Glenn has put additional bouy out in that
cove and a little farther out.
Rocky Lane
(1047) – since this issue has
been mentioned, has seen a lot less of a wake problem in the pass couple of
weeks. Sometimes all it takes is for the
word to get out.
Scott Webber - how are boats weight measured. I does IDNR
weigh boats. How many weight limit
citations has IDNR issued.
Glenn Dalton - IDNR
has not addressed weight out here other than too many passengers on boat.
Joe Nicoloff - wake boats generally use the lake in the
morning hours.
Rocky Lane – have
to have a rule that says must comply with compacity limits for the boat.
Jason Hicks – not
opposed to putting something in the boating rules about following state of
Illinois rules, however do we do the same for driving on the roads. If IDNR are out here enforcing the rules of
Illinois.
Rocky Lane - feels that people should still be made aware
of it, so there is no question.
Joe Nicoloff makes a motion that the staff when boat
stickers are applied for, boats that are
listed as 21 ft and over should be measured. No second, motion dies for lack of a second.
Glenn Dalton – There is no doubt that
we are IDNR managed water way. Rules
are on the website, available in the office, and in the holiday times and all
new members are given a copy.
Cindy Manos (2082)
Knows from expierence that things are a learning expierence. Maybe handout boating rules and state rules
at the time of boat sticker registeration.
Dave Decker - not cost effect to hand out a copy of the
boating rules.
Rocky Lane (1047) Boating Rules committee
was challenged with coming up with a program to make sure boats passed
inspection. The new program would read
as follows:
Attached would be a
watercraft safety equipment list and a watercraft operation sheet.
Dave Decker
so if I bought a boat this year, had it inspected, I
wouldn’t have to have it reinspected again?
Scott
Webber but each year you would have to sign document
stating that you know the rules.
Dave Decker
not his
responsibility to make you sign something, it is the members responsibility to
know the rules and regulations.
Ray Garber
(1827) The
more people we have with the proper equipment the better to prevent or help
with an accident and have the equipment to do so.
Trevor
Martin (1285) Before
boat inspection, seek legal council would that make Holiday Shores liable in an
accident?
Monte Thus
(6) more than
just wakeboats, a lot more additional traffic equals more wake.
Rip rap seawall way to
go. Need to educate boaters, not the
boats, boat drivers are the issue.
Jason Hicks
boatings
rules power turns are allowed. Boating
operation is an issue. Look at power
turns.
Ray Garber
(1822) Boat drivers
causing wake find away to get across to boat drivers, another problem is the
recommended seawall height.
Conversation ensues
Recommended
seawall heights
Scott
Webber asks about recommended seawall heights.
Glenn
Dalton spoke with Roger Groth about recommended height
should be. A good recommendation was
507. Normall pool is 505. Wake limitation at 505.9. Most seawalls fail from the rear, water
washes over then out. No heights are
mandated, just recommended.
Benchmark was never in
place before. We now have several two at
the dam, one by the clubhouse, just north of ski beach.
Conversation ensues.
New Business
Committee members listed
Variance request – Dog Pen
Janet Harris (140) requesting a variance for a dog pen instead
of 72sq I would like to make it 264 square feet.
Building
Committee recommends putting up a 6ft fence in lieu of such a large pen.
Scott Webber you have to lots are they legally joined.
Janet Harris – yes
Discussion: Dave Decker asks what type of dogs.
Joe Nicoloff - Why don’t you just fence in the yard?
Gerry Theodore - the
building committee goes by esthetic. If
you need that big of pen, then a fence is more esthetic.
Dave Decker: the cost of doing a fence is
going to be a lot more than the pen.
Action: Dave Decker
motions to approve the variance, Gary Kluckman seconds.
Dave
Decker & Gary Kluckman vote yes.
Jason Hicks, Joe Nicoloff & Don Austin vote no.
Motion does not carry.
Asphalt Bids
Bid
from Rickey Brothers & Maxx Paving & Sealing for asphalt patches
Action: Don Austin motions to
approve bid as presented, Dave Decker seconds.
Motion Carries
Roof Repairs
Action:
Motion Carries
Maintenance of Property, non-compliance of Permit
Process, and Infraction Levels
Scott
Webber reads proposals from Building Committee
Insert of Citations & Warnings
Action: Dave Decker motions to
approve, Gary Kluckman seconds.
Scott Webber – board will vote the first meeting in September.
Maintenance of Property: structures on all property, whether occupied,
in use or not, shall at all times be maintained in an as built status and in
such a manner as to prevent their becoming unsightly by reason of deterioration,
this includes homes, garages, sheds, fences, docks, boat lifts, seawalls, pools
or any other structure built or erected on building lots.
Action: none, building committee to
re-review
Scott Webber – board will vote the first meeting in September.
Non-compliance of permit process: a member not in possession of or in violation of our
permit approval process will be required to complete the appropriate permit and
pay the appropriate fee; however, the amount normally refunded will be
forfeited as a fine. Upon approval of a
permit all current stipulations indicated in the rules will apply and violation
shall be just cause for monetary fines as well as the suspension of a member’s
right to use Association facilities.
Warning letters may be issued by the Holishor Association prior to any
monetary fine or suspension of a member’s right to use Association Facilities.
Action: Dave Decker motions to
approve, Gary Kluckman seconds.
Scott Webber – board will vote the first meeting in September
Jerry Theordor (1346) – This is the Building
Committees effort to comply to the boards requests.
Conversation
ensues
Scott Webber just wanted to thank the Garden Club, and Holishor
staff the new gate signs look great.
Open Floor
Nancy Dallas (695) Neighbor didn’t get the covenant ballot, can
they get a new one. Advised to call the
office for a new one.
Mark Dooley (1825) Has concerns with additional rock that was
dumped on
Does
Madison Communications have exclusive rights out here. When does the contract with
Jerry Theodore (1346) AT&T U-verse is not available in
Don Austin motions to adjourn to executive session,
Gary Kluckman seconds
Meeting Adjourns at
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